chromosome_junction wrote:

the tories will obviously win the election because of the economy and i agree with their policy of deficit and tax reduction while protecting health and education.

our system drifts on through the years staying pretty much the same because it's served us well, despite all its flaws, and stability is nice. clearly it's broken in many places but i think we've got off light considering the amount of wealth we've destroyed recently what with the wars and the cataclysmic planetary financial meltdowns. i'm hopeful that we're all a little bit wiser for that experience.

if i could ever actually be arsed to go to the trouble i would vote for which ever party was cheapest. Rule Britannia! Hurrah!

And it's 'grebe'.

Can you tell me what they've done which is so amazing for our economy?

I believe we need more people running things like this:
Grassroots green projects 'are way to low-carbon UK'

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ … -carbon-uk

You should all try doing this questionnaire:
http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

Their slogan is "Vote for Policies not Personalities". They've had 553,958 people take it and the Greens are winning with nearly 28%, Labour second with 20%.

MattBlack wrote:

Sorry but the Greens policies mean that we will be paying more in tax and subsidising the state even more and i want to pay less tax not more, for example we subsidise wind farms to stay switched off because the amount of energy they actually create its not worth them being switched on. They want to encourage people to use public transport by scrapping the governments road building schemes yet buses still use fuel so thats not exactly green is it, most of their monetary policies wont work in the current economy and i can see them taxing us even more to pay for their policies

Matt, they are turned off because they are producing TOO much energy for the current infrastructure to cope with. Therefore we should be quickly spending money on upgrading these networks as soon as possible which will save the tax payer money and hopefully bring down electricity costs as well as many other benefits we'd get from renewable energy (clean air to breath, not destroying the planet, etc).

A large wind turbine cost about £2 million and will pay itself back between 1 - 5 years. The cost of these turbines is only going down and once they're in place it surely should bring down the cost of electricity for everyone.

If the governments were actually trying to make our lives better, they'd be putting turbines and solar in as many places as possible giving us all free energy a lot of the time. But of course in this crony capitalist system we have there will always be contracts given to the people with the most influence on our political system, making it seem more inefficient and expensive than it should be.

There is of course plenty of other ways to produce clean energy like hydro power. Here's 10 cities that are aiming for 100% clean energy in the coming years:
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/energy … z3OcoRN9bn

What we should all be doing really is putting  small amount of our money together to install a lot of these clean ways of making energy and saving us all a fortune in future costs. It be like a small tax but you'd actually know it would be going towards making your life better and less costly in the future, and not into some politicians pocket. The amount a small village of 1500 people spend on electricity a year could probably install and maintain a wind turbine that would save them thousands in the following years.

Big Fella wrote:

You should watch FrackNation directly after watching GasLand.

I'll give it a go, but reading about the people that produced it and the question over their funding and lack of scientific back ground really doesn't give me much hope in it. But even if they prove it's 100% safe, it is still the wrong direction we should be putting investment into... it should be renewable clean energies.

I've also just learnt these is a Gasland 2

And if any of you guys are interested in a very important debate about money creation, please check this out:
It is very sad to see how few people are in attendance at this one. I believe the subject is at the heart of the countries financial problems.

Very impressed with Caroline Lucas and the way she handles herself in debates and interviews. I wish she was the leader really.


liquitech1 wrote:
russg wrote:

The deciding factor has been my increased awareness of the dangers of Fracking that are popping up all over our country. I also watched a very shocking documentary yesterday called Gasland, about all the problems people have been having in the US with it. I maybe wrong, but I don't think you should be able to set fire to the water you are suppose to be drinking and bathing in?

2 earthquakes occurred over the last few days in the north of England, you can expect more of these related to fracking..

Yes I heard about that and did wonder.

I've been on the fence about voting for the Green party, but this week I have finally decided I'm voting for them.

The deciding factor has been my increased awareness of the dangers of Fracking that are popping up all over our country. I also watched a very shocking documentary yesterday called Gasland, about all the problems people have been having in the US with it. I maybe wrong, but I don't think you should be able to set fire to the water you are suppose to be drinking and bathing in?

Anyway, have a look yourselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cutGpoD … pp=desktop

Following that I went on to watch some very impressive interviews and speeches from Caroline Lucas. I know she hasn't got strong competition, but as far as politicians go she seems one of the better one's.

I'm skeptical that any party can make an impact within the current system, but we really need to kick these oil companies out of our back yards before they turn the UK into a poisonous block of cheese. For any party to make a big impact they would have to make some drastic changes like locking up some bankers, corrupt politicians and ending lobbying donations. It's going to be interesting to see what Greece do now with a left wing party in power. And I have a feeling this Fracking issue could really shoot the two big parties in the foot.

The best idea and potential for a completely different system I've seen is a decentralized system like bitcoin. The problem at the moment and in the past is that the monarchs, governments and corporations have been able to organise better than the rest of us, giving them the power to write the rules as they see fit. The internet has given us the tools to organise better, but the liberating potential is slowly being taken away by governments and corporations. This is where decentralized systems come into play. They are a protocol / network that is secure, allow freedom of information, transfer of money, trade of services among many other things without anybody being able stop it, and give us the best chance of a true democracy. There are already a few people working on a decentralized internet in Scotland called Maidsafe, as well as a decentralized market place called Openbazaar that will act a bit like ebay but with hardly any fee's or restrictions. Once these systems get going they are very hard to stop. Bittorrent is a perfect example. And bitcoin just seems to be getting bigger and bigger every year. If bitcoin had been created with a centralized server / company they'd have been shut down a long time ago. 

Here's a good article on the subject:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/n … archy.html

Another Hardway Bro's one.... love this

http://soundcloud.com/hardwaybros/creeper-remix?page=2

Here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3fk4QPlD4

What I saw / heard of it, I was very impressed. Definitely one you need to watch with all the crazy things he's doing with the Kaoss pads. Looking foward to hearing it again.

Not sure how far in as just seen this

http://boilerroom.tv/live

Well maybe he does serve a purpose, but he just seems like the kind of character to not take on other peoples views and therefore could have a very clouded view on most of his topics.

I've just seen that Edward Snowden interview and wow, that is a pretty damn big story. A very brave dude imo.

I don't like Alex Jones, although he does touch on some important subjects... I just can't stand to hear him speak. I'm shocked they had him on the BBC. For a more well informed, intellectual insight into the powers that be, I don't think you can get any better than Noam Chomsky. His Hardtalk and Andrew Marr interviews on the BBC are great.

haha, I did say "a bit"... but I am only going by my own buying trend, so it's a small sample.

loopdokter wrote:
russg wrote:

I think with producers earning less and less through digital releases there could be a chance of a bit of a vinyl comeback. I sure miss going to a great record shop and spewing off my monthly wage.

Uh, no.  Not.  Going.  To.  Happen.

Vinyl is a niche market.  The only market that I know of where you can actually sell a 'decent' (that's around 500 these days) number of units is Germany.  Berlin has a lot of DJs who still use vinyl, but my understanding is that's largely just a Berlin thing.

I've recently been buying some vinyl again. Mainly because i've borrowed a friends 1210's as i sold mine a while back... and because i'm starting to find some quality tracks that are only getting released on vinyl. Also, i'm looking back a bit more and finding some gems i missed out on.

I think with producers earning less and less through digital releases there could be a chance of a bit of a vinyl comeback. I sure miss going to a great record shop and spewing off my monthly wage.

Two on here i'd quite like to know the name of.

Cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVZ-Zx8C … re=related

haha, about to say, you spoke too soon. The guy with them is off his nut

spinnerlg wrote:

The tunes are nice and all, but the amount of the folk there looking at phones/posing/flicking and playing with hair etc makes me want to punch them all in the face. Hard.

haha, agree. They make me laugh more than anything though.

No worries mate. There's also a very recent Midland and Paul Woolford b2b one here I need to have a good listen to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOd6KuCArFA

Sounding pretty tasty so far

http://boilerroom.tv/live

Beijing Dave wrote:

Here are some absolute bangers (some old, of course):
Mansun - Wide Open Space (Perfecto Mix)
St Etienne - Like a Motorway (David Holmes Mix)
Charlatans - Nine Acre Dust (Chemical Brothers)
St Etienne - Cool Kids of Death (Underworld Mix)
The Killers - Mr Brightside (Thin White Duke Remix)
The Ting Tings- Great DJ (Calvin Harris Remix)
Pulp - Party Hard (Tom Middleton Mix)
Philip Glass - NYC: 73-78 (Beck Remix) - included because of Beck on remix duties
Kelis vs Simple Minds - New Gold Acapella
Le Tigre - After Dark (Morel's Vocal)
Scumfrog - We Love You (cover of a Rolling Stones track)
Basement Jaxx - Get Me Off (Superchumbo's Supergetoff)

Cheers man. Lot to work at there.

seanc80 wrote:
faible wrote:

Horrific on many, many levels.

Agree. The kind of remix I don't want to hear.

Wow, thanks everyone. It will take me a while to get through all of them but liking Infusion - Running up that Hill.

Keep them coming smile