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Scorsese's  'The Irishman' going to Netflix....horrible trend.

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Output
Abu Dhabi

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Yeah, fuck off and die Milo -  even conservatives won't have anything to do with him -treating him like a leper and not even touching him with a 100 foot pole.    Bannon might want to take a hint & jump ship too - while he still has any semblance of a reputation.

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I'd love to see a strong wind gust rip his toupee of his head exposing his cyborg-like, ala Lawrence Fishburne in the movie 'The Signal'...mid-speech, a whopper of alt-facts bullshit.  Or just fully glitch out - Milli Vanill style and get stuck in repeat mode while foaming at the mouth.

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Henry Rindhoops wrote:

Lol at Sweden. Hope I'm safe boarding the train to Malmo this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39021599

#LastNightInSweden....what are you smoking Trump?  Jesus.

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Dermatron wrote:
Wally wrote:
joeyp wrote:

I hate brexit Wally but that cunt raped a country and killed a ton of people on the back of a lie.

Sure, I have the same thoughts as you but it's two separate issues. He's never going to face trial for war crimes (hasn't he been cleared of it all?) so what can you do?

LOL what the fuck are you on about Wally? He raped my wife but then helped my old mum across the road. Its two totally different issues though.

But what if your mum is your wife?  Perplexing, but not if your from Kentucky or West Virginia.

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Mr. C's Acting Career wrote:

Honestly, Dermo, some of us are just at a complete loss on what to do. Between gerrymandering, the Electoral College, and me living in the SF Bay Area, I don't have a fucking clue as to how to get through to the thickets who voted in this fat orange wound. Anything I say is disregarded as being "coastal elite." It's an absolute omni-shambles.

Gerrymandering and the electoral college are going to be bitter fights.   I know what you mean by coastal elite, but I would rather be a coastal elite than a landlocked thicket.

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zackster wrote:

that's madison vs trump. according to my pops we'd be in a way better state if jefferson wrote the constitution. madison was pro republic while Jefferson was pro democracy. The electoral college is a gift from madison. still, madison’s constitution will ultimately handle the donald.

My bad Zack, I meant Madison.

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Dermatron wrote:

Poor choice of T for an assassination.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/kim-jong-nam-e1487143415163.jpg?strip=all&w=396

LOL

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Dermatron wrote:

Its just a reflection of how it looks for everyone else. Where are the voices of the people like yourself being construed to the rest of the world?

People make out he is mental, unhinged etc. Is he? His mental state is as it has always been. It isn't madness. And it's always won him whatever he wanted in life. This situation is a reflection on the society that created him. Making this person their leader has shown the whole of the US society as unhinged from true love and care that humans really need.

From the formative days of this mans operational thinking around 60+ years ago right up until now he has been brought up in a warped world so far removed from the lives of typical people that it's no wonder he has ended up the person he is. It's not his fault he is a terrible person. He has got his way on anything he wanted and been brown-nosed his whole life.

Any major catastrophe, any scandal, all of the inevitable lives ruined or lost in the continuous wars America has created (and you have GRH) since the end of WW2, and much of the other woes of American affairs will not be his fault directly. High proportion of Americans have been brainwashed not to think properly for themselves and their sick society has created this monster and half of that society is very proud of it.

The perception is justified and the reality is true...I struggle for some semblance of reason and ration and trip over my own inadequacies to explain it.  I'm dumbfounded at the horror of it all.  I believe in our system of Checks and Balances, and not for at least a 150 years will our Judicial Branch prove to be so valuable and pivotal in rendering Trump's aspirations null and void.  I'm still left aghast of how so many could put so much faith in such a decrepit, reprehensible shadow like Trump.  To this day, I'm still left scratching my head as to the nonsensical and invalid motivations for invading Iraq - WMD...nope.   I've always been an advocate that every American should do two years of social service overseas somewhere.  Many Americans are untraveled, and I have no idea the political climate in other countries, and more importantly the perception that is being created by their actions, or lack thereof.   Mini American simply live in a bubble world and believe what they're told, believe what they see, and believe what they hear without doing their own homework and researching. It is a dangerous culture when you become so spoonfed to the point where a monster like Donald Trump gets elected.   My only hope is that enough people care in this country to stop this, and prevent it from happening in the future. I firmly believe that trumps agenda will not get very far, but he has done a fantastic job of furthering people's perception, negative perception that is, of  The citizens abroad that despise America.   I've written letters to my local congressional representatives including Senator Diane Feinstein.  We care,  and the fight will go on.   Growing up in a military family, my life is much different I've lived overseas including Japan and Guam and have spent many  much time in Asia, Micronesia, the South Pacific, Australia New Zealand, central America, Mexico, Canada and Chile.   My dad being brainwashed egghead narrowminded selfish prick that is, did teach me one thing – and that is to respect local traditions and customs and always treat people with respect. He also was a big proponent of educating myself before I went to a country reading as much about it as I could and learning including the language.  Unfortunately, most Americans can't throw two cents to the wind to Cara Knouff about another culture because they've been brainwashed into thinking exactly what you point out.  You're right though, Donald Trump is Donald Trump he hasn't changed probably since the very young age.   The debate as to how Donald Trump got elected in the Socio economic situation in this country will be debated for years to come, and many books will be written, and many classes taught.   This will be a very difficult lesson to for Americans to swallow, and either we'll be more divided, or united...time will tell,  but as for now I will pick the former.  I read an interesting chapter that Zack p.m. to me, and I have to do with Thomas Jefferson's Trumping Trump -  but idiot he noted that governance has it's limits, and the larger the territory you're trying to govern, the less effective government will be.

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Dermatron wrote:

I read comments here and I see people from the two US political parties arguing amongst each other.

Idiot Americans. You argue here about your "Left" party and "Right" party. Within all of the possibilities of the true global political spectrum your choice of either major party (your only choice) is so limited to one tiny fraction of the spectrum. This slither of what could be, whether it is Democrat or Republican, is so far to the right in either case. It is so based on brainwashing you and taking your money to spend on it's HUGE military. It forces you to live in fear of enemies it has created and crushed over and over since WW2 ended. Why do so many people hate America across the globe? Answer: Because you have bombed country after country constantly for 70 years. Forced other countries in to debt beyond their control. Sold your lies or fear over and over. It's your fault that you are hated.

You think you are given choice, and you argue amongst yourselves whilst the rest of the world sees that the most powerful country on the planet has worked itself into a position of global domination that relies on it to be constantly at war and negatively interfering with the rest of the planet. Your last president spent every day of his 8 years at war with at least one country. Sometimes a few! Your current president will be no different. War. Constant war.

You're all brainwashed idiots. Next time you look at your tax bill think of the 1000+ US military bases all over the planet that your money is funding. Think of the BS fear and debt your government has forced you in to. Think about the culture you are forcing on the rest of the planet. Nobody asked the US to be the police of Earth.

You are brainwashed by your government bullies. Stop arguing among yourselves. Stop killing other people over and over around Earth. Stop forcing your values on everyone else. Stop treating people like shit. And the hate will go away.

Not exactly accurate Dermo.  At least 53% of us, probably more at this juncture, don't and have not supported war in the Middle East, or any military incursion elsewhere.  Obama did not start any wars, he was merely doing his best to wind down wars started by Bush.  He had even gone on record stating that we are not the world's police force, nor should we be expected to be.  There is a gross amount of people that have supported Bush and Trump, I'm not one of them.  I'm deeply embarrassed and ashamed of what's going with our country right now to the point of losing sleep and certain things bring tears to my eyes on a regular basis.  There are many of us here that still care deeply about this, we will not lose hope, and we will continue to fight, protest, and execute every legal, judicial, and congressional means to nullify the grotesque spectre of what Trump is trying to do.  You want to have the UN run the world - great!  Who going to enforce any resolutions?  Who's going to proved the bulk of military hardware and troops?  Who's going to front the costs?  Zack and I were not arguing, merely a debate as to the portent of validity of what some DJ said.  Indeed, our military expenditures are ridiculous, but I don't think we've bombed every country for the past 70 years.  I'm not brainshed, so please don't lump me into this pile of shit that believes in Trump.  Remember this though, there is only the US standing in the way of various nefarious powers that would seek to control the world, and implement their own idealogies, culture, military, and "leadership".  Pick your poison.  When shit hits the fan, and most assuredly it will, people will once again look to the US to do something about it.  We share the same language, some customs, and some heritage...so imagine yourself in a world dominated by China, Russia, India, or *insert dictatorship here*.

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Dermatron wrote:

I read comments here and I see people from the two US political parties arguing amongst each other.

Idiot Americans. You argue here about your "Left" party and "Right" party. Within all of the possibilities of the true global political spectrum your choice of either major party (your only choice) is so limited to one tiny fraction of the spectrum. This slither of what could be, whether it is Democrat or Republican, is so far to the right in either case. It is so based on brainwashing you and taking your money to spend on it's HUGE military. It forces you to live in fear of enemies it has created and crushed over and over since WW2 ended. Why do so many people hate America across the globe? Answer: Because you have bombed country after country constantly for 70 years. Forced other countries in to debt beyond their control. Sold your lies or fear over and over. It's your fault that you are hated.

You think you are given choice, and you argue amongst yourselves whilst the rest of the world sees that the most powerful country on the planet has worked itself into a position of global domination that relies on it to be constantly at war and negatively interfering with the rest of the planet. Your last president spent every day of his 8 years at war with at least one country. Sometimes a few! Your current president will be no different. War. Constant war.

You're all brainwashed idiots. Next time you look at your tax bill think of the 1000+ US military bases all over the planet that your money is funding. Think of the BS fear and debt your government has forced you in to. Think about the culture you are forcing on the rest of the planet. Nobody asked the US to be the police of Earth.

You are brainwashed by your government bullies. Stop arguing among yourselves. Stop killing other people over and over around Earth. Stop forcing your values on everyone else. Stop treating people like shit. And the hate will go away.

#MakeDermoGreatAgain
#NotAPlank
#LayOffTheSauceChief

404 Error - no longer there.  Anybody have a separate link?

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jamie wrote:

LOL @ Tapper nailing it

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Owned.

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303 abuser wrote:

i don't think collusion and blackmail are mutually exclusive.  he could be colluding with the russians because he is forced to versus wants to.

as for needing a war, that's been a pretty standard american political tool for a long time.  it rallies the stupid behind the government (see bush sr and jr) and it's good for business; and this government is run by big business as much or more as any of those preceding it.

not saying you're necessarily wrong, but the statement from moby is not unrealistic.

What Moby is saying, may not necessarily be wrong but when I see things spoken in absolutes I tend to question them immediately.   If what Moby is saying is true, then the statements need to be refined. The question needs to be asked - at which point did he start colluding, and then at which point was he blackmailed - or vise versa.  In any case, I think the intelligence community is in the powers that be within those communities are  wearing all of their options and building a case against Donald Trump, but it has to be realistic and able to be proven and stand up in a court of law. I think this is what they're waiting for because  if they fail, it would give Donald Trump unlimited ammo to fire back at them. This is the real risk.   Before they present anything they have to make goddamn sure all of their ducks are in a row.  they're not going to overreach the scope of what they do because that would compromise the very nature of intelligence in the first place, and if they fail   The two are not mutually exclusive, I agree with that.   The way it's worded is rather dubious.  As for war, the Bush administration had heavy ties with the military-industrial complex i.e. Halliburton, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld etc. etc. Donald Trump does not really have ties to any of these machinations of that sector of government and economy, because his forte is real estate and we all know this.

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303 abuser wrote:
ghostriddenhuffy wrote:

Deeply disturbing and highly questionable.  Stick to Voodoo Child and stay out of politics Moby.

is there anything on that list that's really questionable?  it's not a massive leap in logic to get from what we've seen in the last few weeks to any of those points.




Numbers one and two contradict each other. How could trump be colluding when he's being blackmailed. Number three I flat out don't believe, not even a maniacal Freakshow like trump craves a war.  If anything, it would be preemptive strikes to take out Iran's nuclear capability as well as North Korea's nuclear capability. This would include enrichment sites and missile launch sites. I don't think the American public have the stomach for another protracted war anywhere at this point, and it's bad for business.   The Koch Brothers are primary libertarian and optimize their contributions to organizations and think tanks that value the free market.  The trump administration in my view is Neo-fascist. I think that,not only the right wing wants to take a shot at Trump, but also the left-wing.   Most people are horrified at what Trump is doing, it's not just intelligence communities. As for the Dossier  being real – that may or may not be the case, but can it be validated, substantiated, and proven - that  is the real question -  it's basically second-hand information from a former MI-6 spy.   That being said, I have no doubts that most if not all intelligence agencies are collecting data and intelligence on Donald Trump and are monitoring his every move, his every phone conversation, and his every email.

Oh, and goodbye Andy Pudzer - "forgot"  to pay taxes for five years on an illegal housekeeper - oh, the irony!!!

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steelydan wrote:
zackster wrote:

from moby's facebook. i'd be more likely to believe this if it came from a reliable dj, like jeff mills, but still i don't doubt that there is validity here.

after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, 'accurately'...) post the following things:

1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he's being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed
on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.

2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.

3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.

4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he's a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch
brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.

5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are
working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.

i'm writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.

these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.

-moby

deeply disturbing

Deeply disturbing and highly questionable.  Stick to Voodoo Child and stay out of politics Moby.

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Homegrove wrote:

All they care about is getting a conservative judge to the supreme court to topple legal abortion. That is the single matter that is more important than anything else to a disturbing amount of Americans.

Roe vs Wade will never be overturned however,  what the Trump administration plans to do is cut off funding for Planned Parenthood, that is going to be the battleground.  The problem is that Planned Parenthood does much more than perform abortions, they do a whole range of gynecological tests, check ups, education, and birth control.

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zackster wrote:

huff, check your pm box. i sent you those pages from my dad's book. it discusses exactly what you and 303 are talking about.

Cool!  Thanks man, I'll check it.

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303 abuser wrote:
Dermatron wrote:

'Flynn susceptible to bribery by the Russians' or in other words 'He's being bribed by the Russians'.

between this episode with flynn and tillerson's ties to russian oil deals, you'd think your average gun-toting american would start to get upset at some point.  although i'd guess they'd need to be able to connect the dots or even be aware that the dots exist for that to happen.

My guess is that most of the thick chunks of petrified molasses that own guns are the same GOP grass gators that voted for Trump.  Trump really doesn't go anywhere either - if he does, it's to one of his own properties, so when, where, and who is gonna take a swing at him is just a matter of time, but that being said,  I have a feeling there are many private meetings behind many closed doors going on all over the place.

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mr rossi wrote:
zackster wrote:

oh yeah, over 200,000 evacuated. it's a fucking shame that it's in cali and not wyoming.

Judging by the pictures on the news from the rescue shelters their appetites haven't been affected

Gonna puke rain in the next few days...I give it a 40% chance of failing.

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Homegrove wrote:

First domino to fall I hope.

The sooner they all fall, the better.  I still am having a difficult time getting my head around this.  What's next?  A Conway leaked sex-tape?,  Child pornography found on Steve Bannon's computer?, Mattis comes out as says he's gay - declares his new name as " Puppy Love"?, T-Rex announces that he's half Lakota and joins the DAP protests in full tribal regalia?, Steve Munchin' says he want to be 'Chester The Cheetah' -  and resigns his post, Jeff Sessions resigns  to pursue other career opportunities, and starts his own snowboard company – Sessions Snowboards and becomes an avid supporter of recreational marijuana, Andy Puzder resigns and goes full tilt into the organic and non-GMO movement, purchases Annie's Naturals and declares himself 'Fuhrer' of organic foods - company becomes Andy's Naturals.   Ben Carson mysteriously disappears and shows up on video tape six months later in Syria waving an ISIS flag after detonating and destroying what's left of Palmyra...

#SHITSHOW
#YouCantScriptThis

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National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns.  3rd week in office - what a fucking mess already.

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Dermatron wrote:
ghostriddenhuffy wrote:
Grant wrote:

La La Land wins best film at the BAFTA's.  Absolute Bullshit.

I didn't watch it last night, but my missus did and as a result I have to watch Lion at some point and had a row about me refusing to see La La Land.  Fucking BAFTA's.

Manchester By The Sea is really good.

Are Noel and Liam sat on the beach in their bathers?

Lol, don't even know if those two can sit next to each other anymore....

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Wonder if Michael Flynn will be the first to go - White House clearly throwing him to the dogs...

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