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liquitech1 wrote:
chuffer wrote:
Grant wrote:

How did he know it was a small number?  How did he know any kind of number?  That's laughable.

But how does anyone know any number? There's been some pretty strong assertions that there were a significant number of ticketless fans but how did they come to know such "facts"?

...safe to assume given the culture at the time, no?

easy to blame them as well

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liquitech1 wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:
liquitech1 wrote:

...honest question, Chuffer, what way did it pan out then? It's obvious from video evidence that there was excess fan congestion so I'm confused how they've been taken out of the equation. I might need to study the case more as I feel like I'm missing an important part that most are unable to explain.

didn't the police close a road which meant that fans were being directed to Leppings Lane entrance?

..think that was one of the key factors given. Don't see its relevance though unless everyone there that day had a ticket.

there are always going to be people trying to get in without tickets - it wasn't a one off for this event

obvs people without tickets are 'problematic' but police / stewards should have handled the situation better

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liquitech1 wrote:
chuffer wrote:
liquitech1 wrote:

"No contingency plans were made for the sudden arrival of a large number of fans." - answer given by the jury. So although they recognise the need for contingency plans the fact that large numbers of presumably ticketless fans arriving somehow didn't contribute?? This is too confusing, I'm out.

I think the key thing there is your use of the words "presumably ticketless".....do you not think that there could be a sudden arrival of a large number of fans WITH tickets? Say, at 2:45 pm, when most fans leave the nearest pubs to head for the ground just in time for kick off (as BedRob pointed out earlier, tended to happen - and still does to some extent)

..agree 100%, Chuffer, but as shown by the events in Athens and on other occasions, ticketless fans either filled legitimate seats beforehand and/or contributed to extra numbers. 23'000 extra in Athens and that was a few years ago. Find it hard to believe that on this day alone everybody had a ticket. As I said before, I'm ignorant but the bigger picture given from the Liverpool side seems highly erroneous.

i am aware there were fans without tickets but 23k seems a bit toppy

how nothing went wrong at Athens is unbelieveable - very poor management of the fans going in and out of the stadium and stadium not up to the required standards either

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liquitech1 wrote:

...honest question, Chuffer, what way did it pan out then? It's obvious from video evidence that there was excess fan congestion so I'm confused how they've been taken out of the equation. I might need to study the case more as I feel like I'm missing an important part that most are unable to explain.

didn't the police close a road which meant that fans were being directed to Leppings Lane entrance?

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Dr2DJ-(NR) wrote:

last few hours of Montreal would be EPIC - all the way up to Perfect Motion close.

Neil smile

you ledge x

jamie wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:
BedRob wrote:

I watched London Has Fallen on the train home last night. 1/10 worst fucking film i have seen since Olympus has fallen. It was so effortlessly racist and terrible plot/acting effects all round

Strudders will love it

was Olympus the one with Jamie Foxx as president?

that must have been 'white house down'

ah yes - quality bollocks that was

by quality i mean shyte

shaunstrudwick wrote:
BedRob wrote:

was Olympus the one with Jamie Foxx as president?

No

not seen it then smile

BedRob wrote:

I watched London Has Fallen on the train home last night. 1/10 worst fucking film i have seen since Olympus has fallen. It was so effortlessly racist and terrible plot/acting effects all round

Strudders will love it

was Olympus the one with Jamie Foxx as president?

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isn't Jigsaw the name of Marxy's new venture in Sydney?

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smallman1 wrote:

Fingers crossed Real or PSG make a huge offer and we can offload him.

i'm pretty sure he thought that Madrid/PSG were in for him last summer but something went on which ended up with him staying

i'm guessing Mourinho put the blockers on it

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Boring wrote:

You're a div if you can't see the disaster itself was a result of:

Police operations
Local Authority & Sheffield Wednesday safety planning
Fan behaviour

The cover up afterwards is a separate and abhorrent issue.

Fans from all clubs probably have some culpability too - those perimeter fences were there for a reason.

agree that all fans have contributed in some part

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Dermatron wrote:

Ooooh strudders. love your new agro fuck you everyone image. Is the Mrs bitch whipping you?

no aggro smile

will.have to.include more smiley faces smile

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Grant wrote:

Is that a fucking spoiler Strudders?

not really - you are aware there are fucking dragons in it

the death of Drogo could be a spoiler but you have no idea who he is or what his part is in the story

apologies if caused offence

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Diminished Responsibility wrote:

The first season on TV was pretty bad as well. Would have dropped off if it wasn't for that battle where Tyrion was boss.

that was season 2 - season 2 started very slow

*retrospective spoiler alert*






end of season 1 = death of Aquaman and 'mother of dragons'

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fuck off Dermo you whopper

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http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2013/05/w … or-heysel/

it is widely recognised that LFC fucked up the handling of the events in Heysel

and something the club will always have to live with

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Dan Harwood wrote:

Arsenal more so, tbf, Ed. Massive bunch of cunts. I'm no longer disappointed. It is what it is.

don't know how Wenger can sleep at night knowing that he has massively fucked the fans over this season

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Grant wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:

fucking lol!  Arsenal supporters piping up now it looks all over re: Spurs winning the league

Piping up?  Mr Pot on line one for you Strudders!

is he calling about my order of 90% colombian flake?

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seanc80 wrote:

Im at a loss as to how people think its shit. Its a damn site better than the child-like Breaking Bad for example

still haven't completed series 1 of BB

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maybe some cheap suits to be had tho - so not all bad

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fletcher wrote:
aural wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:

are we going to be disappointed at 9pm tonight Ryan?

Well - not going to give anything away - but this episode kind of just set up where the characters are currently. There wasn't much action. There is an interesting scene at the very end since you are into Melissandre smile


.... still would? wink

yup

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The jury decided the match commander Ch Supt David Duckenfield's actions amounted to "gross negligence" due to a breach of his duty of care to fans

hopefully this verdict will bring peace to the families of the 96

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fucking lol!  Arsenal supporters piping up now it looks all over re: Spurs winning the league

they are still finishing above you this term you cunts

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Homegrove wrote:

HBO Nordic for me.

good to see it's been renewed - it's very funny

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aural wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:

are we going to be disappointed at 9pm tonight Ryan?

Well - not going to give anything away - but this episode kind of just set up where the characters are currently. There wasn't much action. There is an interesting scene at the very end since you are into Melissandre smile

re-watched end of S5 last night - shouldn't have bothered lol