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(22,312 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

Fucking hell...

I just posted this on the general footy thread but it could/should probably be here - apologies...

smashdad wrote:

Whilst refreshing my memory this week about Heysel I came across this article for the first time...

http://www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/2832

... bit of a lengthy read but essentially is open and honest enough to acknowledge that many hundreds, if not thousands, of Liverpool fans turned up to the Juventus game in Belgium with fake tickets or in the hope of getting a fake ticket and then got gleefully pissed before leaving it late to roll up to the ground.

It's written entirely sincerely and is openly admitting to exactly the same collective behavioural blueprint that was subsequently seen again at Hillsborough four years later but yet has never once been publically acknowledged, let alone accepted.

Officials who covered up incompetent decisions at Hillsborough should rightly be outed, prosecuted and punished but if the club/supporters/city never face up to and accept the ultimate blame behind the root cause of the 96's tragedy then they'll never get over their grief no matter how many custodial sentences are handed down and thousands paid out in 'compensation'.

And it's always struck me as curious how the incompetent South Yorkshire Police managed to police the Nottingham Forrest fans perfectly competently and safely - wonder why...

Grant wrote:
smallman1 wrote:
shaunstrudwick wrote:

to be clear:

1. Liverpool fans were the ones that charged the Juve fans and it is therefore the fault lies with those Liverpool fans

2. the club should have done MORE to apologise for the behaviour of their fans and to pay respect to those Juve fans that died

And yet no mention of Hillsborough in the above diatribe.

Get out.

3. Hillsborough was the fault of literally every one except Liverpool fans.

Whilst refreshing my memory this week about Heysel I came across this article for the first time...

http://www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/2832

... bit of a lengthy read but essentially is open and honest enough to acknowledge that many hundreds, if not thousands, of Liverpool fans turned up to the Juventus game in Belgium with fake tickets or in the hope of getting a fake ticket and then got gleefully pissed before leaving it late to roll up to the ground.

It's written entirely sincerely and is openly admitting to exactly the same collective behavioural blueprint that was subsequently seen again at Hillsborough four years later but yet has never once been publically acknowledged, let alone accepted.

Officials who covered up incompetent decisions at Hillsborough should rightly be outed, prosecuted and punished but if the club/supporters/city never face up to and accept the ultimate blame behind the root cause of the 96's tragedy then they'll never get over their grief no matter how many custodial sentences are handed down and thousands paid out in 'compensation'.

And it's always struck me as curious how the incompetent South Yorkshire Police managed to police the Nottingham Forrest fans perfectly competently and safely - wonder why...

My favourite so far...

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(7 replies, posted in Mixes & Free Downloads)

Enjoyed that mate - thank you
smile

Thursday - traditional 12 hour pub-crawl
Friday - mixing session with a couple of mates and a couple of extras
Saturday - literally nothing other than sport/tele
Sunday - Cooking and eating
Monday - (hopefully) day with daughter

starcreeper wrote:

Both great points, Lads. Dont know how Domenico got chalked off the list, it was a simple copy & paste.

Let us not forget him either.

The Wiki list is one short - they're all named here;

http://bianconeri.tripod.com/heysel.html

Mate, much as I agree with the sentiment, that list only has 38 names on it - if we're really not to forget the 39 then surely they all need to appear on the same list...

Rocco Acerra (29)
Bruno Balli (50)
Alfons Bos
Giancarlo Bruschera (21)
Andrea Casula (11)
Giovanni Casula (44)
Nino Cerrullo (24)
Willy Chielens
Giuseppina Conto (17)
Dirk Daenicky
Dionisio Fabbro (51)
Jaques Francois
Eugenio Gagliano (35)
Francesco Galli (25)
Giancarlo Gonnelli (20)
Alberto Guarini (21)
Giavacchino Landinni (50)
Roberto Lorenzini (31)
Barbara in Margiotta Lusci (58)
Franco Martelli (46)
Loris Massore (28)
Gianni Mastroiaca (20)
Sergio Bastino Mazzino (38)
Luciano Rocco Papaluca (38)
Bento Pistalato (50)
Patrick Radcliffe
Demenico Ragazzi (44)
Claude Robert
Mario Ronchi (43)
Domencio Russo (28)
Tarcisio Salvi (49)
Gianfranco Sarto (47)
Mario Spanu (41)
Amedeo Giuseppe Spolaore (55)
Tarcisio Venturin (23)
Jean Michel Walla
Claudio Zavaroni (28)
Luigi Pidone (31)

Big Fella wrote:

Perhaps a sense of humour might help.

I have a sense of humour, you hopeless girdle - the fact it doesn't quite marry up with Stewart Lee's and/or yours is both a blessed relief to me and you I suspect...

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(4 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

smallman1 wrote:

... codn't...

*fist bump*

Big Fella wrote:

Really enjoyed Stewart Lee, good heads up from Boring there.

Watched this last night - he is a clever man no doubt and induces the occasional wry smile but telegraphing where he's going with a lot of his stuff stops it being funny when he gets there...

[video]

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(51 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

sabotini wrote:

That high fade on the 13th was insane.

liquitech1 wrote:
Yant wrote:

Some of the tee shots from Bubba Watson were outrageous. Fair play.

The tee shot on the 13th when he went around the bend, absolutely perfect..

Yes to all that.  Amazing drive.

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(51 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

smashdad wrote:

Spieth's to lose at the moment...

Making a great job of doing so...

millsy23 wrote:
smashdad wrote:

Ben Watt's new album has been on most of today - some lovely songs/tunes - 'Young Man's Game' is particularly apposite...

Been looking forward to its arrival mate. I shall peruse.

Long way off my usual 'cup of tea' and I'm shallow enough to admit that if it hadn't been Ben Watt I wouldn't have tried it but I'm glad I did.

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(51 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

Would've been nice to see Westwood post a 67 and ask some questions but the poor cunt can't seem to hole a putt worthy of the name in a Major.  Spieth's to lose at the moment...

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(51 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

Last round then - where's your money?

Ben Watt's new album has been on most of today - some lovely songs/tunes - 'Young Man's Game' is particularly apposite...

So I'm watching the Liverpool City game on an NBCSN stream - the commentary is English but they have got a Septic doing the punditry (Tim Howard I think) and he's just about bearable but then the half-time whistle blows and suddenly I'm watching an advert for male pant liners?! 

*fucking flabbergasted*

Is there actually a market for this shit?  Are there legions of (American) men out there pissing themselves?  'Guard your leaky manhood'?

Fuck off.

*edit*
Absolutely unfuckingbelievable...

http://www.depend.com/guard-your-manhood/#home

Whole new category of fucking off needed.

Gorgeous...

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(13 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

BedRob wrote:

Mark Squiduka

Quality item.

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(34 replies, posted in General Bedrock Discussion)

Mong.

As in, "Just shut up and chuck me the Rizlas, you complete mong..."

EDWARDTHECONFESSOR wrote:
steelydan wrote:

Mixmag update?

yeah. that black and white update booklet about 15/20 pages as i recall..it had all the stop press releases that the monthly mag missed in its deadlines...

I used to have a subscription to Update - bought so many tunes from the recommendations in there, with the five little dancing men...

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4024/4427495440_c5399018a7_o.jpg

... and the fact it's no longer available can fuck off.

Stay safe fella.