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Dermatron wrote:

The premier league is the fucking problem. All those cunts will be running around getting over glorified and over paid and dont give an ounce of shite for passion for the nation. Burn the fucking thing. Ruining English football since 92.

*cliché bingo*

HOUSE!!

(what do I win?!)

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Dermatron wrote:
simonr wrote:
funkeey wrote:

Huh?

Are you a moderator?  Why are you interested?

I am.

LOL  Back to hacking accounts flarse.

Homegrove wrote:

Welcome to the board Funkeey. You'll soon encounter Dermo who will claim you are someone called Doggy.

*chuckles*

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Eavis - My Way - nice

New Phon.o on Bpitch...

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liquitech1 wrote:
smashdad wrote:
Grant wrote:

If one happened tomorrow and there wasn't an EU referendum, then I still think there would be a union - oil prices scare the shit out of people. The referendum would bias resentment towards England (rightfully so), so I don't know. It would take a year to set up another referendum at least and things will have calmed down for one, but oil price, currency issues, what happens in the EU itself will all loom quite large.

100% mate.

If the Scottish had the truth told to them for a short while, let alone a year - i.e. that a diminished EU without the UK will not be accepting ANY newcomers, never mind the fact that Spain would veto any application regardless - then I'd absolutely bet on the Scottish voting the same way as they did last time.

..What's all this?

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK … ce=twitter

With all due respect mate I'd suggest it's an irrelevant quote from someone of no significance whatsoever.

Before their own Referendum on independence 21 months ago the Scots were told by the then President of the European Commission...

Jose Manuel Barroso wrote:

In case there is a new country, a new state, coming out of a current member state, it will have to apply and the application and the accession to the European Union will have to be approved by all the other member states of the European Union.  I don't want to interfere on your referendum here, your democratic discussion here, but of course it will be extremely difficult to get the approval of all the other member states to have a new member coming from one member state. We have seen Spain has been opposing even the recognition of Kosovo, for instance.  So it is to some extent a similar case, because it's a new country and so I believe it's going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible, a new member state coming out of one of our countries getting the agreement of the others.

... and, since then, the UK has pulled out of the EU with the result that any/all additional membership is financially untenable.

To say nothing of the fact that Spain will veto any newly independent European entities in any circumstances that it considers might encourage the ongoing Catalonian struggle for independence.

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jules72 wrote:

Shame we don't have the same election rules as in Argentina, where every eligible voter is required (by law) to vote. Then we wouldn't have had the low turnout from young people.

... unless they inform the authorities that they have no intention to vote?!  Yeah, that would be progress...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsor … g#Enforced

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Is there an international team with worse haircuts than Slovakia?

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Grant wrote:

Which one?

Darren Randolph - thought he was superb.

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Now that the Petition's cover is blown and it's been shown for the farce that it is should we expect a handful of petition signers to appear on the national news saying how they were deceived into signing it and how they regret their actions?!

*chuckles*

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Greizmann man of the match against Ireland?  Surely it had to go to the West Ham lad?

... time for a thread of his own maybe.

Did it again last night then?  Only seen the knock-out but just got hold of the fight and will watch all of it in between the football - keeps on winning the lad...

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Grant wrote:
Boring wrote:

If a Scottish Independence referendum happened tomorrow what do you think the result would be?

If one happened tomorrow and there wasn't an EU referendum, then I still think there would be a union - oil prices scare the shit out of people. The referendum would bias resentment towards England (rightfully so), so I don't know. It would take a year to set up another referendum at least and things will have calmed down for one, but oil price, currency issues, what happens in the EU itself will all loom quite large.

100% mate.

If the Scottish had the truth told to them for a short while, let alone a year - i.e. that a diminished EU without the UK will not be accepting ANY newcomers, never mind the fact that Spain would veto any application regardless - then I'd absolutely bet on the Scottish voting the same way as they did last time.

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Boring wrote:

If a Scottish Independence referendum happened tomorrow what do you think the result would be?

Is one planned?

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Boring wrote:
smashdad wrote:
Boring wrote:

Scotland needs to have another independence referendum. In the last year or so they have voted not to have a Tory government and not to leave the EU yet they've got both.

And yet two years ago ten percent more of them voted to stay part of United Kingdom and play their role in its ongoing decision making processes than voted to leave.

And the articles and opinion pieces laying out what Scotland would do with their 'independence' from England when the EU refuses them entry are conspicuous by their absence.

It was only a 5% swing. If you can't see how things are radically different to two years ago you're an idiot.

I do see how they're radically different Boring - so, to my enormous relief, you won't think I'm an idiot - I just don't see those interim developments being sufficient foundation whatsoever for Scottish people to reject their own decision of less than two years ago.

Especially as they'd be cutting off their nose to spite their face - I repeat, if Scotland ever achieves full independence whatever is left of the EU at that stage will not accept them.

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Boring wrote:
Grant wrote:

That's democracy Boring. I didn't vote Conservative and voted to remain as well.

What a shower of shit.

It's wrong to trap a whole nation within a union if the majority of the population doesn't want to be there. They should have a second independence referendum to find out if the majority want out.

Is it wrong to trap a nation under a government that the majority of the electorate didn't vote for?

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Boring wrote:

Scotland needs to have another independence referendum. In the last year or so they have voted not to have a Tory government and not to leave the EU yet they've got both.

And yet two years ago ten percent more of them voted to stay part of United Kingdom and play their role in its ongoing decision making processes than voted to leave.

And the articles and opinion pieces laying out what Scotland would do with their 'independence' from England when the EU refuses them entry are conspicuous by their absence.

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MattBlack wrote:

Theres already talk the HOC might overrule the referendum, this could get bloody...

They won't.

Every single MP is only in the HoC because of the same process that resulted in a majority vote for Leave.

And Sturgeon can bloviate all she likes - the acceptance or otherwise of the Referendum result is a matter for Westminster, not Holyrood.

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Beats'N'Pieces wrote:
Felch Aid wrote:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Likely waste of time but...

Waste of time or not, apathy could have caused this shit show.

Signed.

The Board is fond of the opinions of learned Professors...

Professor John Curtis wrote:

It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.  It has passed the 100,000 mark for it to be debated in Parliament. All that means is that some MPs will say, ‘It's a terrible shame’, others will say, ‘Hallelujah’. Then that's the end of it.

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Wally wrote:
smashdad wrote:
Beijing Dave wrote:

Apparently 490 MPs are pro-EU. How can the Eurosceptics now form a majority government to trigger Article 50? Answer is they can't.

The only thing I can see happening is a cross-party pro-EU government formed OR we go back to the polls for a general election.

Apparently the majority of the UK who could be bothered to vote are anti-EU.

Ignoring that fact will render the UK the laughing stock of the civilised world.

You won by a 4% majority with multiple sources now saying they want to change their vote due to being lied to or that they were making a protest vote that they didnt think would go through or now that the actual effects of their choice are starting theyve reaised theyve made the wrong call.

Wally - why use such personal language? I don't consider myself a 'winner' any more than I consider you a loser - keeping discussion of victory/defeat at the level of the cause, rather than dragging it down to the level of the individual voter, might help assuage some of the evident personal bitterness being expressed all over the place.

As for the 'multiple sources' - how many have been quoted?  What sort of numbers are we talking about here?  I saw three people interviewed on a news bulletin on Friday - I'd imagine there are others but do they number dozens?  Hundreds?  Do we know there are thousands of them maybe?

And there were lies on both sides of what was a squalid, tawdry, pathetic and demeaning campaign.

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Beijing Dave wrote:

The general impression of the Brexit voter is someone who has been failed by globalisation, lost in life, Smashy.

Tell us in which ways the modern world has failed you?

I'm not sure the formation of general impressions in the modern world is what it once was...

Other than that mate it's all gravy to be honest - not sure I could tell you a way in which the modern world has failed me - happy to keep answering banal questions from you and *ahem* 'funkeey' all the while that it helps though...
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funkeey wrote:

Keen to know Smashdad's post BREXIT thoughts in light of the growing "REGREXIT" movement.

Given the proportionately greater impact on the major domestic markets across the EU, and the rapidly increasing appetite for similar referenda across other EU member states, I'd be keen to know the related thoughts of anyone who voted Remain...?*

* unless they're simply the tedious, unimaginative, bigoted shit that's been spewed out in bucketloads across social media over the last, almost, 48 hours

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Beijing Dave wrote:
smashdad wrote:

Apparently the majority of the UK who could be bothered to vote are anti-EU.

Ignoring that fact will render the UK the laughing stock of the civilised world.

We already are.

Au contraire - I rather suspect that as an absolute minimum we are the envy of the French, the Dutch, the Spanish, the Italians and the poor old Greeks.

Besides which, everybody knows the laughing stock of the world is Donald Trump.  And Tottenham.

Sigur Ros' set from Friday at Glastonbury...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 … -sigur-ros

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Beijing Dave wrote:
jules72 wrote:

Pretty sure the idea of a referendum re-run is not going to happen - you can't rescind the result just because you don't like it.

Apparently 490 MPs are pro-EU. How can the Eurosceptics now form a majority government to trigger Article 50? Answer is they can't.

The only thing I can see happening is a cross-party pro-EU government formed OR we go back to the polls for a general election.

Apparently the majority of the UK who could be bothered to vote are anti-EU.

Ignoring that fact will render the UK the laughing stock of the civilised world.