House Harkonnen wrote:

Matt, the Labour party are not socialists.

Just as the current Conservative party don't contain anyone really right-wing.  They all fucked off to UKIP and as it's an embarrassment to dance music in general that they can have a supporter here.

You cannot be this stupid.  Can you imagine Nigel Farage and his party meeting Barack Obama, Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin to discuss world economics?   Watch the YouTube video of his behaviour in the European parliament here: 

Keep the fucker out and trust the Tories to curb immigration without being cunts about it.

Ed Milliband is closer to socialism than Blairs government and he was supported by the Unions over his brother as they believed he would return Labour to the left, however he seems to be trying to steal Tory policies now as well saying things like he will restrict benefits to immigrants for the first 2 years which is a very Tory policy. Problem with that is it is against EU law so unless he's planning on trying to renegotiate the treaty on EU membership he's not got much hope of getting that one in

Dan Harwood wrote:
erik.b wrote:
Dan Harwood wrote:

Last time I checked, the UK was a democracy?

I suppose you'd advocate living in a communist dictatorship instead?


In theory Communism is a great idea.

True. However, its infinitely more elitist than the old Class system and stops people bettering themselves.

Exactly this, its like Socialism is great until you've run out of someone elses money

House Harkonnen wrote:

Matt, when you posted that kid giving it jingo in the classroom, was that you saying "look, even the kids of today know what's what"?

Conservatives will probably sort out the immigration quietly and without causing riots, suicide bombings and making other countries (which believe it or not, we need) blackball us.

Might be worth pointing out that another part of our overpopulation problem is crap people having too many kids.   Yes we all have a right to live and breathe but when it's the fat, stupid and lazy ones having all the kids with their generations reproducing every 15 years, even you must realise it's probably worse than immigration.

I think thats a fair point, people still having big families when they no longer need to is a drain on resources too, but that doesn't lead to schools where English is a second language, jails full of foreign criminals we can't deport because of Blairs human rights act and virtual ghettos in parts of the country caused by Blair and Browns multicultural experiment, as for the kid, its a pretty extreme view but its how a lot of people are starting to feel and is why groups like UKIP are gaining more popularity

roberto wrote:

actually to be serious.... I work in the "space" industry. You know, how your phone knows where you are, your little garmin knows where you are? How many hundreds of football pitches of the Amazon we've razed in a day? How shite the ice-caps are looking? That sort of shit. Satellites. Amazing things, give you sport and everything.

Anyway, I digress - the company, based in Guildford, Surrah! The workforce totals about 500 give or take. About 200-300 of those are "immigrants". What about that? I've never seen so many people with an MSC or PHD or even the whole fucking hog level Professor anywhere I work and yet a huge percentage of people are these famed immigrants. Working hard. Towards a better Britain. A better Europe. You fucking twats - educate yourself. Everyone else, as you were.

STOP BUYING THE FUCKING MIRROR - WHY DO YOU GET A VOTE?

Thank you Roberto but under a points system like in Australia all those people would probably still get into the country, all it would mean is that unqualified, unskilled labour wouldn't just be able to walk straight into the country unchecked, that's all most people want, that's why we need a Conservative government rather than Labour or SNP who'll basically let anyone in, this is only a small country and we don't have the infrastructure to deal with mass immigration on the scale we have had it.
And I dont buy that fucking lefty rag the mirror, I get most of my news online these days thank you

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BedRob wrote:
BedRob wrote:

So whats everyones predictions for the season ahead

Top 4
Chelsea
Arsenal
City
Liverpool

didn't think it would be an Arsenal v Liverpool Final

But this was my prediction re the top four in August lol

I went
Chelsea
City
Arsenal
Utd, but i didnt expect City to be the ones that could fall out of it

Ive never understood why we don't have elections at the weekend, it saves them having to close schools and people rushing to polls after they've finished work

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BedRob wrote:
DuFunk wrote:

Big evening of football/drink tomorrow night lads.  A win should wrap up the league for us being in a minority of chelsea fans over here will be nice to get it right up some of the wannabe UTD fans! BF apart who does seem a genuine manc and true fan!  Allow they are still in a transitional period so things won't be as intense as years gone by.


Only one big game on tomorrow DuFunk, tune into the Beeb at 17.05 Sharp!!!

Another Arsenal game on the Beeb, id rather watch You've been framed

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/ap … pher-nolan

How different could the Dark Knight trilogy have been

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Ive heard a few tracks from the album and i think Johns voice works quite well on the rocky stuff

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A nice freebie from an upcoming artist

https://soundcloud.com/i-d-1/ian-dillon … e-download

One thing i do agree with Ed on though is zero hours contracts, they're great for students or people who have another job and are just doing a few extra hours but if its your main job your employer has essentially got you by the balls and if you refuse work for any reason then you could end up with no work at all

Is Ed Millibands plan to say his ideas so often that eventually people will actually start to believe them?

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https://www.facebook.com/Daredevil/vide … mp;theater

If you like things like The Raid then you'll enjoy this, great choreography

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre … rtty-video

An interesting watch, are all the parties lying or just not telling us the whole truth?

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Homegrove wrote:

Just bought premium for Hearthis. For one I like to support them, for two it's dirt cheap at 29 €, for three I sense a mass migration about to finally happen. It's been talked before, but if Soundcloud starts picking ID's from a middle of a mix people who use it for DJ mixes are fucked.

Especially when they aren't even the right tracks and you have to go through the whole rigmarole of proving it isn't

Lol no Dave, but i am a believer in the free market, lower taxes and less state interference which won't happen as long as were in the EU, Cameron, Farage and Clegg are all open to the referendum (even if not all Cleggs party are) but i don't believe that we will leave the EU, i think it will be a narrow vote similar to the Scottish independence vote which will hopefully give the EU a bit of a scare and make them more responsive to negotiation which at the moment they aren't

Beijing Dave wrote:
MattBlack wrote:

Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,
Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CClWuPMW0AI14qx.png

Dan Harwood wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if on the day before the GE (if the opinion polls remain static and it looks like another hung parliament) Nige comes out and tells those who were going to vote UKIP to vote Conservative.

He's probably more Tory than Cameron

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 … mmigration

Grant wrote:
MattBlack wrote:

Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no, I don't see why American businessmen and Indian Doctors have to jump through hoops but Latvian child killer and Eastern European people traffickers can walk in pretty much unchecked

Trade yes, immigration no then? Good bits, yes, perceived bad bits, no?

That one-way traffic is not going to happen, so what's it gonna be Matt?

I think it can, there are other countries in Europe that trade but aren't in the EU, I'd like to see it reformed but as most countries are happy with it and Britain is the only country that wants change the only way well get change is a referendum

Trade yes, ruled by and dictated to, no, I don't see why American businessmen and Indian Doctors have to jump through hoops but Latvian child killer and Eastern European people traffickers can walk in pretty much unchecked

The EU is not just a common market anymore, it is an undemocratic dictatorship which pretty much tells us what we can and can't do and we pay over 8 billion for the privilege. The Tories and UKIP both want a referendum and they both want sensible taxation, I would much rather have controlled immigration than the current free for all where we have no control over our own borders and the only way that will happen is if we leave the EU

House Harkonnen wrote:

UKIP are lunatics and if they got a majority vote it would be a fucking disaster.

Matt, please - listen to the voice of reason.

Do you honestly believe they will? I don't even think Farage himself believes they will get an overall majority but I think they may get a few MPs and Cameron might need him to get enough seats as even with the Lib Dems I don't believe the Tories will have enough for an overall majority and I'd much rather have the Tories the Lib Dems and UKIP than Labour, the Snp the Greens and the Welsh as I believe that would be a disaster for this country

Ive just been reading UKIPs manifesto and i have to say i do quite agree with some of their policies, its a pity the party has so many nut jobs in their party it makes them virtually unelectable, id certainly take them over the loony left Greens though

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Homegrove wrote:

I never could stand Mustaine's voice, so never liked Megadeth, only album I ever bought was Countdown to Extinction. I was too young for Black Sabbath originally, but got to them after high school when I also discovered Led Zeppelin. The original release of IV is probably the most valuable rock album I own on vinyl. Got it for something like 5 € at a flea market in 1995.

I actually quite liked Megadeth, Mustaine was a better guitarist which is why i preferred the first 3 Metallica albums, even though he wasn't on Masters of Puppets, i did start off on soft rock such as Def Leopard before getting into the harder stuff, although i had a mate who was into stuff like Napalm death which was too extreme even for me