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This makes interesting reading

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/30/pr-c … up-part-i/

Id love to see Campbell get well and truly shafted like the horrible cunt that he is

Wally wrote:
MattBlack wrote:
Wally wrote:

There's a worrying trend happening in hollywood right now where movies are being edited to match China's expectations.

When people go to the cinema in China it's more of a social thing with the film being background noise. People talk and use their phones freely.

They don't want dialogue or exposition - they want simplistic good v bad, lots of explosions and where possible, Chinese actors and actresses to make an appearance.

Both Warcraft and Independance Day 2 were cut for Chinese audiences I reckon with every second that could be cut from the movies ending up on the floor - in both cases, there's apparently an extra hour that didn't make it in the film.

The thing is, cutting films so aggressively stops you bonding with the characters or getting to know or care about them - scenes make less logical sense internally and in the context of the film. Things happen but you're not quite sure why or what relevance they have because you've not been given the whole picture that gives you that info.

So in that context, an extra 30 mins can be a god send because it can flesh out scenes, characters and events so they make more sense and allow you to get attached.

Barry "Wally" Norman signing off <mic drop>

A much simpler solution is to make more money. The original of BVS was deliberately made as R rated and was then cut to make it a 12A to get more bums on seats and then the original uncut version would be released on DVD as people who went to see the film on the cinema would then buy the new uncut version as well. They did the same with Taken 3, the version released on the cinema was edited to make it a 12A but the original "harder" cut was released on DVD

Adding swear words and more violence isn't going to improve a film in any meaningful way which was your original question was it not?

Depends how much was removed i suppose, BVS had 30 minutes removed which like you have said would have fleshed out the film a bit more and brought back a couple of characters which were not in the original cut. The last Xmen film had most of the scenes with Rogue removed but then they released a special Rogue addition which restored all these scenes after so called "public demand"
But you are right, just putting some swearing in and adding some violence is going to improve a film if you didn't like it much in the first place but if you didn't like BVS then i dont think you'll watch it again with an extra 30 minutes whether it adds to the original film or not

Wally wrote:
MattBlack wrote:
TitianWarrior wrote:

I watched the extended Ultimate cut of Batman vs Superman last night. 3 hours long! Terrible film (and I like superhero films), if this is supposed to be a massive improvement on the cinema release, dear god! Confusing, boring and just dull.

I dont get why if you didn't like a film somehow watching another 30 minutes of it was going to improve it somehow

There's a worrying trend happening in hollywood right now where movies are being edited to match China's expectations.

When people go to the cinema in China it's more of a social thing with the film being background noise. People talk and use their phones freely.

They don't want dialogue or exposition - they want simplistic good v bad, lots of explosions and where possible, Chinese actors and actresses to make an appearance.

Both Warcraft and Independance Day 2 were cut for Chinese audiences I reckon with every second that could be cut from the movies ending up on the floor - in both cases, there's apparently an extra hour that didn't make it in the film.

The thing is, cutting films so aggressively stops you bonding with the characters or getting to know or care about them - scenes make less logical sense internally and in the context of the film. Things happen but you're not quite sure why or what relevance they have because you've not been given the whole picture that gives you that info.

So in that context, an extra 30 mins can be a god send because it can flesh out scenes, characters and events so they make more sense and allow you to get attached.

Barry "Wally" Norman signing off <mic drop>

A much simpler solution is to make more money. The original of BVS was deliberately made as R rated and was then cut to make it a 12A to get more bums on seats and then the original uncut version would be released on DVD as people who went to see the film on the cinema would then buy the new uncut version as well. They did the same with Taken 3, the version released on the cinema was edited to make it a 12A but the original "harder" cut was released on DVD

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liquitech1 wrote:

Matt, serious question, why will the Chilcot report be "interesting"? Are you expecting change?

I reckon Blair and Campbell are shitting themselves, by all accounts they dont come out of it very well

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Plus Chilcott is out next week which should be interesting

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Diminished Responsibility wrote:
jamie wrote:

Given what's going on in the UK government I think I am going to start watching 'The Thick of It again'

Veep has been pretty spot on.

Veep is great, think it nails US politics pretty much

TitianWarrior wrote:

I watched the extended Ultimate cut of Batman vs Superman last night. 3 hours long! Terrible film (and I like superhero films), if this is supposed to be a massive improvement on the cinema release, dear god! Confusing, boring and just dull.

I dont get why if you didn't like a film somehow watching another 30 minutes of it was going to improve it somehow

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mr rossi wrote:

Gove's just been put up to stop The Boris from running so May has a clear run of it.
Boris popular with the grass roots so the party don't want a 'Corbyn' on their hands.

I dont think Boris is particularly well liked in the government, I'm guessing he backed Gove as that way he'd get a nice cabinet position and a maybe a run at the leadership in 2020. Plus i dont think he had any intention of running, everyone just presumed he did but he never actually gave any indication and even said when asked that he had no interest in being PM at this time.

So the leadership candidates consist of Theresa "Jackboot" May who is scarier than Maggie T and will probably have us all finger printed and carrying ID cards before the end of her reign, Gove, Crabb who thinks he can cure gays and Andrea Leadsome who i thought spoke well in the debates but doesn't have enough backing to win the leadership this time.

As for Corbyn because of the way the leaders are chosen i dont think that the Tories will have the same problem as Labour do at the moment. Corbyn was chosen by the Labour party members and anyone can join, i remember when the Labour leadership contest was going on people were paying £3 just so they could join and vote for him and if there is another leadership contest he will probably win again

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smallman1 wrote:

We're sh*t Yant and it's Tottenham's fault.

Sorry Ed who was the last Chelsea player to play for England?

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Dermatron wrote:
MattBlack wrote:
Dermatron wrote:

And Codgson was?

No, but at the time the FA wanted someone with European experience ad Hodgson had that, he was also available and cheap


4 million a year cheap? Plus he failed at every level he's ever worked at apart from one shitty club in Denmark. His appointment was fucking laughable .

And I don't think we have had a credible manager since Hoddle

By cheap i meant no compo as he was available and they'd just spent a fortune getting shot of Capello

I remember when we used to moan about only getting to quarter finals under Sven, at least we actually got to them then

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Dermatron wrote:

And Codgson was?

No, but at the time the FA wanted someone with European experience ad Hodgson had that, he was also available and cheap

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Dermatron wrote:

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/foo … nt-manager

Well fuck me dead. If Southgate gets this job ill never watch them again. I thought they were fucking joking.

I would almost favour someone like Hoddle as head coach and with Southgate and maybe Shearer under him but i dont think Southgate is big enough to take on the job on his own

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http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/faragenew-684035.jpg

"I had 10 Euros on Iceland"

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England have only won 6 games in knockout football since 1966:
Paraguay 1986
Belgium 1990
Cameroon 1990
Spain 1996
Denmark 2002
Ecuador 2006

That's pretty shocking really

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Oh Schteve....

https://twitter.com/BreatheSport/status … 0613959681

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Has Tim Sherwood ruled himself out yet?

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Southgate favourite to take over, brilliant

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I think this is the worse England performance I've ever seen, saves us getting a proper pasting from France in the next round though

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David Cameron should speak to Hodgson, he certainly seems to have a plan to get out of Europe...

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Talk of Sterling starting as Lallana has a foot injury, Kane will probably return as well

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EDWARDTHECONFESSOR wrote:

24 Hours until a shadow cabinet of Marcus Brigstocke, Rufus Cunting Hound, Lily Allen, Damon Albarn, Jude Law, David Schneider, Charlotte Church and the Esso Blue haired Hag with the ulcerated Yeast infection from Question Time.

I will sit right down, waiting for the gift of Labour Fission.

I have decided to resign from the shadow cabinet, I was never actually in it but have resigned just in case

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Theres already talk the HOC might overrule the referendum, this could get bloody...

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erik.b wrote:

hijacked by the Remainers

And 40,000 "people" from Vatican city, didn't even know that many lived there

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Lets sign a petition, 3 million signatures, oh hang on...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 … e-than-39/

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First shot on target was on 118 minutes, has there ever been a match like that?