My question is do you have to set the cue points before on computer, or can you do it with a controller like K2?
...you can set beat-grids on the D2 but not really on the X1/K1/2. Personally I'd rather set the beat-grid on the computer, then additional cue-points/loops to the file when messing about with the controller.
I have one at work that I muck around with, but to be perfectly honest, traktor is a total bore to mix with. It's like a half step above just playing shit in itunes.
...I disagree, in it's most basic form it can be a bit mechanical, but I like putting the extra effort into prepping the track and having lots of options/elements when I mix, layering beats and using EQ's/filters. Its the age-old question about how much importance you attach to the 'art' of beat matching, these days, unless I get the urge to spin some vinyl, I can live without it
I want a proper mixer and a small controller to do the rest. I know Unbroken had two K1's at home and that seemed to do the trick. Voorn gets by with just one so I know it can be mapped for four tracks.
..before the D2's I had 2x NI X1 mk2's, not the K1's.
The NI are much more plug-n-play friendly, dedicated buttons etc. (*cough* shaun ), the K2's much more customisable, and with the benefit of the built-in soundcard, so like Jamie you can map them to be used as standalone 4-channel mixers if you want an ultra-compact house party setup (or look at the cheaper K1 without the soundcard if you're not likely to use this).
You can get it for about 1900 € from Germany. I was meaning to save for an MP2015, then the MP2014 was announced and I was "hey, I don't need four channels."
But it's still about 300 € more than a DB4, and doesn't have the effects or the three different ways to use the EQ, or a million other things DB4 has. So made a logical decision.
MP2015/2014 is however a beautiful piece of technology to have on display in your frontroom, whereas both DB4 and now this are pretty ugly IMO.
..I offered you mine for a lot less than that!
3 different EQ's? meh... I only ever used it in Iso mode. Scarcely used the other FX either, (apart from auditioning a few when I was messing about making tracks, rarely when DJ'ing). Personally, MUCH prefer using the filter control on the Rane, reminiscent of mixing with the Hi-Pass on the V6.
If you are dead set on the DB4, hang on a while though... price will be dropping any day now IMO.
...interesting concept, would certainly seem to be squarely aimed at the techno crowd.
Design-wise, very reminiscent of the DB4.
It strikes me that the further certain DJ's get from playing track after track, and the more they move towards playing component parts of tracks/stems/whatever, the closer the DJ mixer needs to move towards having the features of a studio mixing desk. How many will actually use it the way it is clearly designed to be used is a different matter.
Cracking mix Damo, as soon as it finished, i rang my mum to tell her i loved her!!
...exactly the emotion I was aiming for (I think)
Incidentally i think O'Donovans track is the best track to date. Was never a fan of all that boring prog he got his name with.
...agreed, did a track on KMS called 'Firefly' a couple of years back which I really liked (pitched right down), but other than that most of his stuff has been much too overtly 'proggy' for me. 'Skyn' is a screamer, very 90's percussion and strings, simple and rocking, 'The Step' has a proper old rave feel to it too.
The start of this mix is more sexual than a Steelydan wearing nothing but a pair of tight-fitting Slazenger spandex trunks, pressed up hard against the window of the women's Boxercise class down at David Lloyd, Kingston Upon Thames.