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What's the point in a sport when the competitions are just being bought?

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Let's hope UEFA don't flake on the incoming financial rules then. It's still a pisstake to allow them a few years to build up a squad a la Chelsea, let's hope it's the last of it.

Going back a bit but as it's topical this excellent piece in the Grauniad is a good read of how they used to roll :-)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/oc … al-chelsea

1) Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea (December 1919)

Arsenal and Chelsea may not do each other many favours nowadays but that wasn't always the case. After the first world war, football restarted in the summer of 1919, and, thanks to the Arsenal chairman and Tory grandee Sir Henry Norris, it was set to be a whole new ball game. With the top division expanding from 20 to 22 clubs after the big hiatus, it had been expected – as had happened in the league's two previous expansions – that the two clubs in the previous season's relegation places (1914-15 stragglers Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur) would be offered a reprieve, while the top two in the Second (Derby County and Preston North End) would go up as normal. Ah but.

Norris argued that Spurs should go down as expected but that Chelsea should stay up. His argument? Manchester United would have been in their relegation shoes instead, had they not beaten Liverpool in a 1915 match later proven to be fixed. Chelsea were reprieved and looked forward to a season in the top flight alongside newly promoted Derby and Preston. The league's members would vote for the other team to join Chelsea in the top flight. And so it was that infamously – outrageously – Arsenal, fifth-placed in the Second Division in 1914-15, prevailed over Spurs, and Second Division high-flyers Wolves and Burnley, all of whom had ended the previous season above the Gunners in the league ladder.

Clever Henry! Norris had swung the vote by not pushing the morals of the 1915 fixing scandal so far as to demand United or Liverpool be punished for their players' misdemeanours, winning the trust of many big clubs. Other chairmen were impressed with the MP's contacts outside of the game, and his close relationship with League (and Liverpool) chairman 'Honest' John McKenna. Oh, and there were accusations of bribes having been flung around willy nilly, but nothing was ever proved. When Spurs finally made it to the top flight, the fixture would soon kick off: the 1922 version saw two men dismissed – unusually for the time – while fans fought pitched battles in the streets outside Highbury. By comparison, the first game after the Norris affair between Arsenal and Chelsea, consolidating in the top flight in December 1919, was a curiously pleasant affair. The spoils were shared in a suspiciously symmetrical match, Chelsea on top in the first half, their hosts in the second. Go figure.

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Wiggipedia wrote:

Let's hope UEFA don't flake on the incoming financial rules then. It's still a pisstake to allow them a few years to build up a squad a la Chelsea, let's hope it's the last of it.

'Ol green eyes is back.

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As that article demonstrated Arsenal were once the nouveau riche, albeit 100 years ago. I assume you think I'm jealous of your Roubles Ed, come now, you can do better than that.

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Thats an interesting article there Wiggy, explains the roots to the Spurs-Arsenal rivalry as well

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Yeah, too true Matt, it's amazing to think they were kicking off outside the ground in those days too! Excellent stuff.

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Smarmy, disgusting, curb crawling cunt.  David Pleat.

"You would, you fat greasy chip eating cunt". Creepy March 2014

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So Alan Hansen thinks Spurs can challenge for the title.

Can't say i agree.  Not without a more settled back four and a top drawer striker.

But we're not far away.

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Wtf is going on at Liverpool, beaten today by Blackpool, so much for "Fortress Anfield"

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A highlight of my life. yeah that good LOL

Please Woy say you are staying for ever with the yanks to rule the world.

"You would, you fat greasy chip eating cunt". Creepy March 2014

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Don't think it's got anything to do with Hodgson.

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Are you always this boring?

"You would, you fat greasy chip eating cunt". Creepy March 2014

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Are you always a prize twat ?

BTW, got updated on your user name last night Derms - to think of the stick you dish out to people here you sad case.

SimonR

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Smash and grab win for Chelsea.

I'll take those all day long.

Typical Arsenal, all fart and no poo.

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Thought you were there for the taking today and with a few more fit players we might have run you closer but in the end it was a fair result.

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Wiggipedia wrote:

Thought you were there for the taking today and with a few more fit players we might have run you closer but in the end it was a fair result.

We're clinical and very physical but couldn't get near you at times.

Real clash of styles, enjoyable contest.

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It's already shaping up to be an interesting season and race for the title.

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simonr wrote:

sad case.


Check that. SimonR went  for a night out to a club, talked about user names on an internet forum and then called somebody else a sad case.

"You would, you fat greasy chip eating cunt". Creepy March 2014

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smallman1 wrote:
Wiggipedia wrote:

Thought you were there for the taking today and with a few more fit players we might have run you closer but in the end it was a fair result.

We're clinical and very physical but couldn't get near you at times.

Real clash of styles, enjoyable contest.


Definitely was an enjoyable game, even being on the losing side. I'm getting sick of wishing that we had more of our best players available though, it's getting beyond 'bad luck' now.

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simonpreston wrote:

What's the point in a sport when the competitions are just being bought?

City haven't won anything!!!

Unless of course you're talking about Real Madrid - in recent times the worlds most succesful unsuccesful football club....

Other general thoughts....
VDV looks like a cracking buy....another good bit of business by Real.
United look mid table this season......Ferguson is kidding himself if he can honestly say he's happy with his squad.
Liverpool could go down.
Chelsea will walk it this year.

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Warren M wrote:
simonpreston wrote:

What's the point in a sport when the competitions are just being bought?

City haven't won anything!!!

Unless of course you're talking about Real Madrid - in recent times the worlds most succesful unsuccesful football club....

Other general thoughts....
VDV looks like a cracking buy....another good bit of business by Real.
United look mid table this season......Ferguson is kidding himself if he can honestly say he's happy with his squad.
Liverpool could go down.
Chelsea will walk it this year.

Pretty much agree with most of that, Warren.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal … 042037.stm

Top Of The League!

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Yantino wrote:
Warren M wrote:
simonpreston wrote:

What's the point in a sport when the competitions are just being bought?

City haven't won anything!!!

Unless of course you're talking about Real Madrid - in recent times the worlds most succesful unsuccesful football club....

Other general thoughts....
VDV looks like a cracking buy....another good bit of business by Real.
United look mid table this season......Ferguson is kidding himself if he can honestly say he's happy with his squad.
Liverpool could go down.
Chelsea will walk it this year.


Pretty much agree with most of that, Warren.

...you honestly think United will finish mid-table and Liverpool could go down? ...you're both dreaming then

even with what is probably our worst squad in 20 years we'll still finish top 4

I just want you to know we're done professionally

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zebramofo wrote:
Yantino wrote:
Warren M wrote:

City haven't won anything!!!

Unless of course you're talking about Real Madrid - in recent times the worlds most succesful unsuccesful football club....

Other general thoughts....
VDV looks like a cracking buy....another good bit of business by Real.
United look mid table this season......Ferguson is kidding himself if he can honestly say he's happy with his squad.
Liverpool could go down.
Chelsea will walk it this year.


Pretty much agree with most of that, Warren.

...you honestly think United will finish mid-table and Liverpool could go down? ...you're both dreaming then

even with what is probably our worst squad in 20 years we'll still finish top 4

Zeb - I didn't say United would finish mid-table - if you read it properly I said United "look" mid table. After draws to Fulham, Bolton and Sunderland it's not unreasonable....

Liverpool going down would be a dream though....

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Yantino wrote:

But we're not far away.

further away than you think imo...

kibble, kibble, who's got the kibble

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